tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post115756479252729946..comments2023-04-06T09:04:33.935-05:00Comments on Faith Classics: Lazy PosterJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1162939274822130592006-11-07T16:41:00.000-06:002006-11-07T16:41:00.000-06:00Thanks !Thanks !jelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468151130326112121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1162937290664021262006-11-07T16:08:00.000-06:002006-11-07T16:08:00.000-06:00jel, thanks for stopping by.I would define "coffee...jel, thanks for stopping by.<BR/><BR/>I would define "coffee fellowship" as the activity whereby christians meet in a church environment and either have coffee or food while making small talk. This has many times passed for "fellowship".<BR/><BR/>But as John the apostle points out, true fellowship must involve Christ Jesus and be a communion with the Godhead. Only as we are in Christ can we have this kind of real fellowship with other believers.<BR/><BR/>This doesn't mean we can't sit down for a coffee and fellowship, but we must realize that church socials, teas, etc are not fellowship in the Biblical sense simply because the saints got together.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1162936139883434762006-11-07T15:48:00.000-06:002006-11-07T15:48:00.000-06:00Hi,may I ask what is Coffee Fellowship?Hi,<BR/><BR/>may I ask what is Coffee Fellowship?jelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468151130326112121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1158246356953270422006-09-14T10:05:00.000-05:002006-09-14T10:05:00.000-05:00Amen Daniel to #4.I would say that you have expres...Amen Daniel to #4.<BR/><BR/>I would say that you have expressed rather well the emphasis of John when he talks about the kind of fellowship he is longing to see in other believers.<BR/><BR/>I think however that fellowship is entirely subjective, the only thing is that it's usually subjected to our feelings rather than to the Holy Spirit and the cross.<BR/><BR/>You are quite right that many christians do not understand the true purpose and meaning of fellowship. I think this is why the feel good teachers are so popular. This would also explain why our "christian music" sounds just like the world's music.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for your input and encouragement.<BR/><BR/>God bless,<BR/>JimJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1158168345604689692006-09-13T12:25:00.000-05:002006-09-13T12:25:00.000-05:001. Rose nailed this one.2. I like the NASB for lit...1. Rose nailed this one.<BR/><BR/>2. I like the NASB for literal accuracy, the ESV for a good blend of literal and idiomatic accuracy, the KJV for the poetic prose, the NET for it's translation notes. Really, I have different favorites for different applications.<BR/><BR/>3. The message for sure - and the various cult flavored translations - the JW's translation for instance. I don't think the apochypa are inspired texts, so any translation that includes the apocrypha is blatantly inaccurate with regards to that inclusion.<BR/><BR/>4. I don't like answering questions about biblical things when the question ends with "for you..." - as though the definition of fellowship were subjective. Fellowship is only possible if one is in the Spirit and not in the flesh - and frankly most real Christians are entirely carnal, and have no idea what real fellowship is - and so assume that the nice feeling they get when they are with other Christians talking about God is "fellowship."<BR/><BR/>Fellowship happens when I am on the cross with Christ, and nothing of me is left to live my life - then and only then is Christ living in me - and then and only then am I living in Christ - and the moment I am in fellowship with Christ - I am in fellowship with anyone else who is in fellowship with Christ - we are one mind and one heart. It isn't something that happens unless both people are in genuine fellowship with God in Christ through the Holy Spirit.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06734845463331170748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1158070655123822332006-09-12T09:17:00.000-05:002006-09-12T09:17:00.000-05:00Thanks Matthew, that is interesting.God bless,JimThanks Matthew, that is interesting.<BR/><BR/>God bless,<BR/>JimJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157738721731046312006-09-08T13:05:00.000-05:002006-09-08T13:05:00.000-05:00The ESV is essentially a cleaned up version of the...The ESV is essentially a cleaned up version of the RSV.<BR/><BR/>Lots of intellectually inclined conservative Evangelicals have always read the RSV in secret, but were embarassed by its liberal theological bias, most notably its use of 'young woman' in Isaiah 7:14.<BR/><BR/>These Evangelical RSV readers were an excellent potential niche market for a new Bible translation. Hence the ESV.<BR/><BR/>Every Blessing in Christ<BR/><BR/>MatthewMatthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157732862450799722006-09-08T11:27:00.000-05:002006-09-08T11:27:00.000-05:00JD, can you or somebody else tell me where the ESV...JD, can you or somebody else tell me where the ESV came from and what angle (motivation) it approaches translation from?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157732137224519062006-09-08T11:15:00.000-05:002006-09-08T11:15:00.000-05:00The more recent editions of the NASB remove the wo...The more recent editions of the NASB remove the word 'thou'.<BR/><BR/>I believe the NASB is not as literal as the KJV or NKJV.<BR/><BR/>Does the NRSV follow the RSV in using 'young woman' instead of 'virgin' in Isaiah 7:14?Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157730863033633852006-09-08T10:54:00.000-05:002006-09-08T10:54:00.000-05:00Yeah, Jim, I just ordered 500 ESV's for our church...Yeah, Jim, I just ordered 500 ESV's for our church, it is to become our corporate study bible...the KJV is just what I grew up on...<BR/><BR/>I don't drink coffee...Even So...https://www.blogger.com/profile/14208866122431178938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157722531704807602006-09-08T08:35:00.000-05:002006-09-08T08:35:00.000-05:00Thanks Rose, the NASB was the first Bible I read m...Thanks Rose, the NASB was the first Bible I read much in. I found it fairly clear but was a bit confused as to why they kept some of the old pronouns and language for the psalms.<BR/><BR/>I am really beginning to wonder why we have so many translations. I am failing to see all the positives any more?<BR/><BR/>God bless,<BR/>JimJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157721171344009062006-09-08T08:12:00.000-05:002006-09-08T08:12:00.000-05:00Hi Jim,1. Islamofascism and how to eradicate it.2....Hi Jim,<BR/><BR/>1. Islamofascism and how to eradicate it.<BR/><BR/>2. New American Standard. I feel its "authors" really took a literal approach to the translation of the manuscripts. I like it. Some say it is very wooden to read, but things seem very clear to me when I read them from that translation, although I don't mind the NKJV or the NIV too much either.<BR/><BR/>3. New World Translation - John 1, case in point.<BR/>NRSV - I don't know if I would call it heretical, but I think the gender-nuetral language thing is very fussy.<BR/><BR/>4. Fellowship - Being one with the family of God.Rose~https://www.blogger.com/profile/14906854078623897422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157686285774022232006-09-07T22:31:00.000-05:002006-09-07T22:31:00.000-05:00JD, Thanks for the comments, are you familiar with...JD, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comments, are you familiar with the ESV at all?<BR/><BR/>You don't think "coffee fellowship" counts? :)Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157683640524808812006-09-07T21:47:00.000-05:002006-09-07T21:47:00.000-05:00Glad to se you back, Jim...1. too many to name eve...Glad to se you back, Jim...<BR/><BR/>1. too many to name even one that stands out...<BR/><BR/>2. KJV - always used it, memorized much of the NT, over 40...<BR/><BR/>3. message paraphrase - Matthew hit it on the head...TNIV bothers me...<BR/><BR/>4. Things in common - we are the temple of the Spirit, he that is joined to the Lord is one Spirit - one with Christ, one with each other...Even So...https://www.blogger.com/profile/14208866122431178938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157670312450817542006-09-07T18:05:00.000-05:002006-09-07T18:05:00.000-05:00Hi Matthew, it seems I still have one faithful rea...Hi Matthew, it seems I still have one faithful reader.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link to on the message bible. I didn't realize it was that corrupted. <BR/><BR/>I think our evangelical leaders need to wake up and make sure they know who and what they're endorsing.<BR/><BR/>God bless,<BR/>JimJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281425856398968419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18917324.post-1157576889383221842006-09-06T16:08:00.000-05:002006-09-06T16:08:00.000-05:001. The freedom of market forces from government in...1. The freedom of market forces from government interference.<BR/><BR/>2. The King James Bible. <BR/>Visit <A HREF="http://watch.pair.com/" REL="nofollow">Watch Unto Prayer</A><BR/><BR/>3. The Message. It inserts a magic formula into the Lord's Prayer.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://seekgod.sasktelwebhosting.com/messageoccult.htm" REL="nofollow">About the Message: New Age/ Occult Terminology</A><BR/><BR/>4. Fellowship is the manifesting of the unity that is created by believers being united in the Body of Christ, the temple of the Holy Spirit.<BR/><BR/>Every Blessing in Christ<BR/><BR/>MatthewMatthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.com